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My immediate post-ep reaction, so I reserve the right to totally have a different opinion in a few days...

And I'm very conflicted about things so expect me to contradict myself a dozen times ...

On to my reactions:

- I like Hannah.  I mean, like her as in I could see hanging out with her and having a good time.  And she seemed to have that knack of connecting with people on their level (Discussing media conspiracies with Hodgins? FTW, Hannah.)  And Brennan didn't seem to put her off at all with her Brennan-ness. 
- Booth was getting on my nerves asserting to Brennan and Sweets how happy and in love he is.  I mean, I'm no shrink but it smacked of 'say it until it's true'
- I thought Brennan's statement to Angela that she had exactly what she expected to have in life very sad and unfortunately very true
- Back to Hannah:  I think she's going to get bored in D.C. and pull a Sully and ride off into the sunset. 
- Brennan basically spelled it out for Booth when they were in the bar at the end and she was basically telling him that it means nothing to love someone if you can fall out of love with that person and into love with someone else (I mean, she could have just said, "You proved my entire theory on feelings being ephemeral when you said you loved me but then went and fell for Hannah a few months later")
- Brennan was trying really hard I thought to be more open and friendly than I've ever seen - character growth, yay!
- Clark and his verbal diarrhea - hilarious!

All in all, I feel heart-crushed for Brennan, a little ticked off at Booth, annoyed that Angela doesn't seem to be getting it, and hopeful - all rolled into one. 

Now that I've gotten this off my chest I can cruise through LJ and check out everyone else's reactions!


Date: 2010-10-02 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina227.livejournal.com
she seemed to have that knack of connecting with people on their level

Agreed. That's what makes a good journalist, I would think, being able to feel out each individual person you have to interview. Makes me wonder how fast she's going to cop on to the whole wreckage of emotions between B&B. Booth also has a bit of that; we've seen him use it to get info during investigations at times.

it smacked of 'say it until it's true'

I said this somewhere else already, but Booth is being slightly manic and annoying with the whole "I'm sooo happy!" shtick.


Brennan basically spelled it out for Booth when they were in the bar at the end

Originally she seemed like she was trying to feel him out to see if maybe he and Hannah would end now that they're separated. At the beginning of the ep, she said something like, "Maybe you weren't really in love with her," and then she was being a bit snarky (or maybe nosy in her awkward way) with the "I wouldn't make any comparisons to your situation." Like, she just had to keep pointing out that Hannah was back in Afghanistan. And then Hannah showed up and I think it rocked her world a little to have to see the happy couple and know that things could very well be as serious as Booth claims they are.

Even what she said to Clark seemed to have subtext that was all about her and Booth. "You repeated an inconclusive assumption I made without all the evidence." Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that really seemed accusatory towards Booth. Like: YOU were right about us and I was wrong, but you just took my word for it and found someone else while I was working through it. And that ties right in to what she was saying to him at the bar about love being ephemeral and not being ale to depend on it.

All in all, I feel heart-crushed for Brennan, a little ticked off at Booth, annoyed that Angela doesn't seem to be getting it, and hopeful - all rolled into one.

Yes. Total yes. I'm exactly the same right now. Though I think Angela does get it. I think they all get it, but they've just given up on trying to get her to see reason.





Date: 2010-10-02 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
Oh, the Clark thing was totally about Booth. You hit the nail on the head with your assessment there. I think she feels very betrayed by the fact that Booth took her word for everything, and then when she turned out to be wrong - he had already moved on. Well, says he's moved on. (Repeatedly).

Date: 2010-10-02 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limone1.livejournal.com
I said this somewhere else already, but Booth is being slightly manic and annoying with the whole "I'm sooo happy!" shtick.

He certainly is! It's not his style. He wasn't like that with his girlfriend in S1, Tessa. Cam and Booth were sneaking around and we didn't see much of him and Catherine, no it doesn't seem like Booth. I think he wants to be happy and if he was over Brennan he wouldn't be rubbing her nose in his happiness. It's as if he is still upset about her "No" in the 100 epi.

Date: 2010-10-02 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina227.livejournal.com
I don't think he's really doing it to rub her nose in it, though. It's almost as if he has to keep pushing it to convince himself and to convince her and everyone else. Because he knows that if he allows himself to be vulnerable around her, if he lets down his guard, he's going to fall right back into his old patterns.

Date: 2010-10-02 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limone1.livejournal.com
I saw Booth's behavior as trying to convince himself and those around him. Maybe rubbing her nose in his happiness is too strong a word, but I think he has a need to show Brennan he has moved on.

Booth going back to "pining" after Brennan would have been painful to watch and introducing Hannah was a good way to develop the story, but I hope it won't be a whole season of Booth and Hannah...

Date: 2010-10-02 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempertemper.livejournal.com
That moment at the diner when she basically told him he'd proved her theories correct was so painful - but awesome writing. Now if Booth would only
hear
it!!

Date: 2010-10-02 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
Yeah, Booth for all his investigative skills and intuition is very dense all of a sudden.

It's like he's totally forgotten how to read her. Actually, I think he's trying really, really hard NOT to get what she's saying because he would have to face some very painful truths.

Date: 2010-10-03 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_missmargaret_/
Actually, I think he's trying really, really hard NOT to get what she's saying because he would have to face some very painful truths.
Some very painful truths and some very tough decisions. Because if he chose to acknowledge Brennan's sort-of-confessions, then wouldn't that just open up that pandora's box he's trying so desperately to keep closed?

I'll say this, I'm having a tough time with Booth this season. I understand his motivation to move on, but as we've all said, this schtick isn't really fooling anyone.

Date: 2010-10-16 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
I agree that he's trying really hard. Trying to be happy and make something work with Hannah, and also trying to prove to himself (and everyone else) that he's succeeding in moving on.

Date: 2010-10-02 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaialy.livejournal.com
Agreed.
Clark...he just became one of them, and that freaked him out so much it was amazing to watch!*hey that rhymed..*
As for Angela, I think its the whole pregnancy thing that is making her a bit different from our old Angela, but she'll be back. Hitting Booth over the head for being an ass.
The whole scene at the bar in the end...you are so right. I was watching that and thinking just that. Booth is in love with someone else after (well technically he never said that he was in love with her, but we all knew that he is) just a few months!

Date: 2010-10-02 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm a little mad at our Booth right now, after that scene in the bar.

I want to shake him and say, "You're proving her right!"

Argh!

Date: 2010-10-02 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayiana2.livejournal.com
I think she's going to get bored in D.C. and pull a Sully and ride off into the sunset.

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure she's going to leave. HH and SN really seem to like the actress. But she will end her relationship with Booth, and as far as I'm concerned, that's good enough, especially since I like the character.

All in all, I feel heart-crushed for Brennan, a little ticked off at Booth, annoyed that Angela doesn't seem to be getting it, and hopeful - all rolled into one.

This is pretty much where I am as well, though having been through JAG I'm maybe a little cynical about how this could all play out. Part of me thinks s6 could be B&B's season, and part of me remembers JAG and thinks s6 might be B&H. Then s7 (assuming Bones survives a B&H s6) could be pretty much like s7 of JAG was. And God help us all if HH et al do an equivalent of the Paraguay arc on Bones. *shudder*

And can I close by saying how heart crushing it is that Brennan's so completely alone right now? She's going through something incredibly difficult, and there's no one, absolutely no one, she can turn to for support.

Date: 2010-10-02 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, shades of JAG. At least I like Hannah - I couldn't handle a Renee or Brumby.

The one thing we have on Bones that we didn't have on JAG is that the actors and the show creators/writers seem to genuinely want a relationship between B&B at some point, which is a far cry from DPB&Co. So even though they may drag this out for some time, I think there's an eventual goal to have them together.

And I am totally heart-crushed at how alone she is. The whole "my life is exactly how I expected"? Gah.

I think Hannah may be around the whole season, because I do think they like her. But I definitely think they're setting things up so that she's the one to walk out on him. (WHich I can't say I don't think he deserves - I'm a little annoyed with Booth right now)

Date: 2010-10-02 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayiana2.livejournal.com
I'm a little annoyed with Booth right now

I am, too, though it has nothing to do with Hannah's existence and everything to do with the way he's treating Bones. I understand she hurt him, but he's really being obnoxious at times, and it makes me grind my teeth.

Date: 2010-10-02 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
Yeah, he's being a total jerk. I'm not saying it's all totally intentional - I mean, we've all had friends that were pretty obnoxious when they first found a new love and had to tell us about it all the time. But it's not as though she was cruel, or led him on, or broke his heart on purpose. He went for it - gambled - and it didn't work out. I see no need for rubbing it in that he moved on.

Okay,sorry, not trying to Booth-bash. I just get madder the more I think about it :)

Date: 2010-10-02 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limone1.livejournal.com
I've caught up with the rest of the (Bones)world!

Like you, I reserve the right to change my mind as I only watched the epi today. My reactions are nearly similar to yours.

The only difference is that I think Angela gets it, but she has given up/decided not to push Brennan anymore. And besides, Hannah seems to be a nice person and Angela is nice too, so I don't see her plotting any devious schemes to get Hannah out of the way.

In a way I think Hannah, as a temporary character, is what the show needs at this point, that or they would have had to let B&B finally get together. It just wouldn't have been plausible to let them go on they way they have so far.

Date: 2010-10-16 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
I think someone like Hannah is a necessary evil at this point but I hate to see Booth be happy with anyone but Brennan! I agree that they were stretching plausibility for a while there.

Date: 2010-10-02 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurryupslowly.livejournal.com
Joining the party late (sorry!) and thanks for a very insightful discussion.

I'm no shrink but it smacked of 'say it until it's true'

But isn't that what he usually does? I mean, that's the way Booth works. For someone with his history, the way you make a good life for yourself is by wishing hard enough for it to actually happen and turning a blind eye to what's not really working. He did it with Brennan for six years or so - it's this personality trait that what made him persist for so long in the idea that there was a future for them. (I'm happy he was sane enough to give up though after the 100th.) To get back to the point: he is clearly a case of 'say it until it's true' but not necessarily because of what he's been through with Brennan. He does it all the time. I think part of him really believes that if you wish for something hard enough, it's going to happen (and here's where Brennan has all the reasons to believe precisely the opposite).

she was basically telling him that it means nothing to love someone if you can fall out of love with that person and into love with someone else

That's a great observation! I'd like to add

(1) isn't it ironic that Brennan, of all people, would reach the conclusion that falling in and out of love is not really a voluntary act (it's not for her at least, she can't undo the fact that she loves Booth and she knows it)? I would've pegged this as a Booth thing, but apparently it no longer is since Booth insists on being totally in control over the falling-in-love process (just like Brennan used to).

(2) I found your point particularly illuminating in relation to Brennan's insistence on defining what happened to Booth as 'falling in love'. She says 'Booth fell in love in Afghanistan' and variations thereof to several people. I found that puzzling, until now: she's trying to work out whether Booth really loves Hannah and what this means exactly in relation to moving on etc. Hence the conversation in the diner.

(3) I think she was also asking him if he regrets having loved her (the 'irresponsibly dangerous' comment) and, to his credit, he says no. This bit redeemed Booth a little for me.

Date: 2010-10-16 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
I totally see them in a role-reversal here. Booth has taken on the role of Brennan in being in control of his feelings and emotions (or so he thinks, I reserve the right to point out his failure there at a future date) and therefore moved on when he decided to move on. Brennan is the one that now seems to believe that feelings are not things that can be controlled - they change and grow at will. Very interesting for these characters.

Date: 2010-10-03 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britt-1975.livejournal.com
I also feel heart-crushed for Brennan - and it was the exact same line that got me - the inflection in her voice when she said that her life was as she expected - Oh wow... there was almost a tiny tremor or catch... it killed me.

Hubby and I have actually gotten in several arguments about Booth - and how long he should have had to wait before he could find someone else... and my point isn't that he had to wait... but that it diminished his 'love' for Brennan because he apparently got over her and fell in 'love' again inside of 7 months. Plus, I'm annoyed by what I perceive as his dismissive attitude towards Brennan and the complete insensitivity he's showing towards her and her feelings. They were more than partners - they were best friends. She told him that she was too afraid to lose what they have - and in addition to proving her point that love is ephemeral - he's also proved her point that their partnership couldn't survive a failed love affair. Argh. I'm so annoyed by Booth... and it's not that I don't feel like he deserves to find love and be happy - he does - but it's the way he's handling the whole mess. Part of me is now wishing for some fabulous new guy for Brennan - someone sexy and sweet and smart... and just let them be with other people for awhile. But then I remember what an emotional investment I have in B/B and I return to my senses.

I also like Hannah and I can not tell you how much that annoys me. However, I find that she has a strange accent or pronunciation on certain words - and some of her line deliveries are a little odd... but that could just be me being nit-picky. :-)

Date: 2010-10-05 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amilyn.livejournal.com
I find that she has a strange accent or pronunciation on certain words - and some of her line deliveries are a little odd

She's Yet Another Canadian. :-)

Date: 2010-10-16 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-3.livejournal.com
A tiny part of me wants her to meet someone fab too! It's my "girl solidarity" coming out - I don't want her to pine for Booth while he's all in love with someone else!

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